Comments on: “Please Rise for the Jury.” http://www.cliseetiquette.com/2010/08/13/please-rise-for-the-jury/ Savvy decorum for today’s professionals Fri, 03 Feb 2012 03:00:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Arden Clise http://www.cliseetiquette.com/2010/08/13/please-rise-for-the-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-1627 Arden Clise Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:59:29 +0000 http://www.cliseetiquette.com/?p=558#comment-1627 Really great observations Didier. I studied French in school and I know I was always confused about when it was appropriate to use the formal "vous" and the informal "tu". I can imagine that would be difficult to have to always make that distinction. I like how you say "judge with consequences" because you're right, being a juror is a very important role and formality is appropriate. Thank you for your comments. Really great observations Didier. I studied French in school and I know I was always confused about when it was appropriate to use the formal “vous” and the informal “tu”. I can imagine that would be difficult to have to always make that distinction.

I like how you say “judge with consequences” because you’re right, being a juror is a very important role and formality is appropriate.

Thank you for your comments.

]]> By: Didier http://www.cliseetiquette.com/2010/08/13/please-rise-for-the-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-1626 Didier Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:10:12 +0000 http://www.cliseetiquette.com/?p=558#comment-1626 When I started working here in the USA, I discovered calling colleagues and even higher ups on a first name base. I was born and raised in a country where the language has a difference between formal and casual (the "vous" and "tu" in French..), and thus I was raised up with this ingrained approach of adressing people differently according to the situation. I remember a case where I was in a newly formed company, and my boss kept the formal level with me, while other of my colleagues were at the casual level with him. They had worked with him in previous enterprises, and I had not, and I felt like an "outsider" because of it. I must say that I really appreciated losing that distinction here in the States, as it makes the communication easier, less awkward, and also allows for more natural exchanges of thoughts. Respect needs to be earned, and not generated out of conventional forms of adressing. This said, I do believe that in formal occasions, like in a courtroom where you are going to "judge with consequences" another human being, this formal process (including standing up for the judge or the jury) is very appropriate, as it reiterates the importance of what is about to take place. It would lose it's significance if it was done often in lesser occasions as it would become a rite rather than a true mark of respect. When I started working here in the USA, I discovered calling colleagues and even higher ups on a first name base. I was born and raised in a country where the language has a difference between formal and casual (the “vous” and “tu” in French..), and thus I was raised up with this ingrained approach of adressing people differently according to the situation.

I remember a case where I was in a newly formed company, and my boss kept the formal level with me, while other of my colleagues were at the casual level with him. They had worked with him in previous enterprises, and I had not, and I felt like an “outsider” because of it.

I must say that I really appreciated losing that distinction here in the States, as it makes the communication easier, less awkward, and also allows for more natural exchanges of thoughts. Respect needs to be earned, and not generated out of conventional forms of adressing.

This said, I do believe that in formal occasions, like in a courtroom where you are going to “judge with consequences” another human being, this formal process (including standing up for the judge or the jury) is very appropriate, as it reiterates the importance of what is about to take place. It would lose it’s significance if it was done often in lesser occasions as it would become a rite rather than a true mark of respect.

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